Carroll Cave Reports Blog

29 October 2022 Survey in Water Passage

Corey Ellis led a team of three to do some survey in a few side passages off the entrance Water Passage. His trip report and some photos are posted on the Nashville Grotto web site. https://nashvillegrotto.org/trip-reports.php?tid=77

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29 October 2022 Annual Bat Census

29 October 2022 Annual Bat Census

Trip report - Carroll Cave bat census Date of trip - 29 October 2022 Trip participants - Bill GeeMartin CarmichaelMike KovacsCandace KovacsChloe KovacsJarrett WhistanceJustin PrazakSarah Peterson Time in - 9:30am. Time out - 7:00pm. The annual bat census trip in Carroll Cave takes place in late October every year. For the last few years we have found very few bats and quite a few sculpins. Perhaps it should be called a sculpin census. This year was no different. Most of the participants arrived during the day on Friday to help out with work on the campground pavilion. The Kovacs came in Saturday morning. There was a survey project trip planned for the same day. The three people on that team arrived Saturday morning . They geared up and were in the cave shortly after 9:00am. By that time we were all ready to go. As soon as the survey team was in the cave, we started in. That was about 9:30am. We were all in the cave shortly after 10:00am. Since there was only one rope, we coordinated...

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28 October 2022 Campground pavilion work day

28 October 2022 Campground pavilion work day

Working on the Pic Walenta Memorial Shelter House at Carroll Cave, Oct 27 and 28. Trip report by Rick Hines. I had hoped to pour concrete on Oct 28 but after 3 inches of rain earlier in the week I canceled the concrete to avoid getting a concrete truck stuck in the cow pasture. But since I had a crew lined up, I went ahead with working Oct 27-28 and switched from concrete work to framing the shelter house. I drove down Thursday morning and picked up my trailer at the silo, then drove back to Camdenton and purchased 45 twenty-foot sticks of rebar, rebar wire ties, tie twisters and some 2x8s. Jeff Bowman was the first to arrive Thursday and caught me napping in my truck. First, we started checking the alignment of the eight post we had set on a prior work day. I was surprised to find how much they had moved after the rain. Bill Gee arrived and after setting up his trailer he joined in to try to straighten the posts. We then took some measurements to determine the shortest post. We...

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14-16 October 2022 MCKC 30th Anniversary

Trip report by Alex Litsch Trip date: 2022-10-15Project manager: Alex LitschTrip purpose: CelebrationAreas of Cave visited: CampgroundTrip participants: 24 participantsEntry Time: October 14thExit Time: October 16th The trip report: There was good weather, good caving, good food, and good conversation this past weekend during MCKC's 30th anniversary at our newest acquisition, Carroll Cave. In attendance were the two men that started the MCKC 30 years ago, Don Toole and Doug Feakes (aka Digger). Shout out to Kirsten Alvey-Mudd and her helper, Adele Ayres, for making a banquet Saturday evening for everyone. Also a shout out to Tony Schmitt who showed up Thursday night to make sure that the porta johns were delivered on Friday. Tony also joined the MCKC board this same weekend and took up the mantle of MSS Rep and Membership Secretary. He is a welcomed addition to the board. He is filling the vacancy left by recently resigned board member Alicia Wallace whom had served on the MCKC board...

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15 October 2022 – MCKC 30th Anniversary Weekend

15 October 2022 – MCKC 30th Anniversary Weekend

There was good weather, good caving, good food, and good conversation this past weekend during MCKC's 30th anniversary at our newest acquisition, Carroll Cave. In attendance were the two men that started the MCKC 30 years ago, Don Toole and Doug Feakes (aka Digger). Shout out to Kirsten Alvey-Mudd and her helper, Adele Ayres, for making a banquet Saturday evening for everyone. Also a shout out to Tony Schmitt who showed up Thursday night to make sure that the porta johns were delivered on Friday. Tony also joined the MCKC board this same weekend and took up the mantle of MSS Rep and Membership Secretary. He is a welcomed addition to the board. He is filling the vacancy left by recently resigned board member Alicia Wallace whom had served on the MCKC board for over 24 years and was a strong influence in shaping the MCKC into what it is today. She also played a significant part in the creation of the Missouri Cave Plates program. Several MCKC caves were made available for caving on...

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15 October 2022 MCKC Meeting

15 October 2022 MCKC Meeting

Trip report by Rick Hines Saturday, I attended the MCKC’s 30th Anniversary at Carroll Cave where Alex Litsch, president of Missouri Cave and Karst Conservancy, and I signed the deed (PDF attached), donating the Carroll Cave Conservancy’s real estate to MCKC. This marks the end of my long involvement with the CCC but not my involvement and passion for Carroll! I formed the CCC January 22, 1998 to open a backdoor into Carroll since the natural entrance had been closed by the owner. By November 2000 we had drilled a nine-inch pilot hole, 120 feet to the T-junction in Carroll. On July 28, 2002 at 3 minutes passed noon, I had the honor of jackhammering out the last few inches of rock and being the first person to enter Carroll thru the Backdoor! Since then, we have obtained seven acres of land and over 515 acres of cave rights around the shaft. Our surveyors have mapped over 21 miles of passage making Carroll the third longest cave in Missouri. Thirty years ago, I was one of the founding...

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15 October 2022 Upper Thunder River

15 October 2022 Upper Thunder River

Trip report by Tony Schmitt Entry Time: 10amExit Time: 4pm As part of the MCKC 30th anniversary and celebration of the Carroll Cave acquisition, I agreed to lead a trip. Martin Carmichael (Chouteau Grotto) along with Jen Sutherland and Cathleen Yung (both MVG) signed up. Martin has been in the cave many times. Cathleen has been in the cave once on a survey trip downstream to survey a sleazy side passage. This was Jen's first introduction to Carroll. Both Jen and Cathleen are newer to the caving community. Both are competent, enthusiastic and easy to get along with. Our goal for the day was the Second Azure Pool and the Chocolate Bunny. Martin ran Jen and Cathleen down to Thunder Falls while I waited near the ladder for a potential 5th person. I soon got a call down the shaft to "go caving". No 5th. We headed upstream from the ladder and I immediately noticed the water level was much lower than I ever remember seeing it. It looked and felt like it was a good 18" lower then usual. Both...

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8 and 9 October Work Weekend Report

8 and 9 October Work Weekend Report

Trip report by Rick Hines I was hopeful that we would be able to get the Pic Walenta memorial shelter ready for pouring concrete, which was accomplished. I drove down Friday afternoon and picked up an auger attachment for a skid steer and a 12” auger from A-B rental in Camdenton so that it would be ready when Jake and his skid steer arrive Saturday morning. When I arrived at the silo I was pleased to see that the gravel had been delivered Friday morning as promised so we were ready to go to work Saturday. Saturday morning everything was covered with a heavy frost and the temperature was 31F. Rusty’s longhorns were nearly hidden in the dense fog. Marty Griffin and Krista Bartel arrived early to help. Jake arrived on time with his machine. He unloaded the auger from my pickup, hooked it up and started drilling. He made quick work of the eight 3’ deep post holes. It looked like we had plenty of gravel so I had him strip the sod and level the ground where the concrete pad will be. He...

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27 Aug 2022 Survey trip report – Alex Litsch

Alex LitschLower Thunder RiverDL28-29-2022Kohl Mitchell, Cathleen Yung, and Myself were the first crew of many to enter Carroll Cave at about 9:30amon 8-29-2022. I rappelled down first to check that the rope we rigged the night before had made it to the bottom.After successfully reaching the bottom, Kohl came down, and then Cathleen. As we were taking off our verticalgear, Chad McCain had entered the cave and was waiting for the rest of his team.Our objective was the DL2 lead along Lower Thunder River, just past the Little Lake Room. The trip down wasuneventful. Having been the first time for Cathleen and Kohl being in that part of the cave, we made some quicksightseeing stops, but ultimately we kept a pretty good pace swimming down "The Forevers". We reached DL2at about 11:10.We left Thunder River and started getting out our survey gear. I had with me my two personal DistoX2s and aCRF DistoX2. All of which agreed well when tested on the surface the night before. Kohl took point on...

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27 Aug 2022 Survey trip report – Bob Lerch

This was the first trip in 20 years with 6 teams and 18 cavers. Not since the beginning of the project in September 2002, have we had this many people on a survey trip. Dan Lamping recruited cavers from all over the state with the hopes of introducing new cavers to Carroll and to possibly break 21 miles for the Carroll Cave survey. Teams were sent throughout the cave to work on old leads that might add up to some real footage. Please see the individual team reports for more details on each team. Teams and objectives were as follows: Litsch Team (Alex, Cathleen Yung, Kohl Mitchell) – DL2;McCain Team (Chad, Michael Bradford, Isaac Smith) – CL8 (infamous lead requiring vertical work near the Mountain Room);Schmitt Team (Tony, Corey Ellis, Josh Hafner) – side leads and drone reconnaissance near the Mountain Room;Lamping Team (Dan, Ben Geisert, Jeff Fennell) – side passages off the Water Passage;Crews Team (Spike, Joe Sikorski, Marissa Schorr) – Upper Thunder leads; andLerch Team (Bob,...

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