Carroll Cave Reports Blog

01/11/03 – Lounsbury (Transit)

Survey trip report: 1/11/03 By T. Lounsbury Team members: T. Lounsbury,  Book/backsights B. Gee,  Frontsights R. Bruegger,  Transit Arriving at the cave on Saturday morning I was surprised to see several cheerful faces among the new brethren of the survey. Bill Gee is always there and Randy was my host this weekend on his brother's boat on the lake. My team was ready but Ben's team had not arrived yet at least the trip leader anyway. Heather and Roger were patiently waiting on Ben and Dan and when they caught us at the Montreal store they were real disappointed the café was closed due to Debbie being ill. They decided to go to town to grab a quick bite to eat. B. Gee (always foaming at the mouth to go caving) was pressuring me into getting my ass in gear and getting the days survey started. We were in the cave by 10:30am and we proceeded to locate station U17. While on the way Randy cleared his throat and said he wanted to start over on U13. He felt as if the integrity of the survey...

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01/11/03 – Miller (Round Room)

Trip Report for 1/11/2003 By Ben Miller Others on Trip: Dan Austin Roger Brown Heather Levy We entered the cave around 1:30 PM on Saturday and began our trip going upstream in Thunder River.  We passed Tom, Randy, and Bill who were working on the transit survey. Informing them of when to expect us out we continued on until reaching our side lead past the Round Room.  After putting on some additional layers and getting the survey gear out we headed towards our end.  Dan and Heather went to go check a pit off the side of the passage, which we had discovered on a previous trip.  Dan thought it might be able to be down climbed with a handline.  Unfortunately this was not the case as they found out but the handline did allow for a closer inspection of the passage below which is walking sized passage.  Vertical gear will be needed to access this portion.  We continued on to UL2-25 and picked up the survey.  The passage started out as a six to eight foot tall narrow canyon that was trending...

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Commentary from Jerry Vineyard – 12/14/2002

Subject: Re: Carroll Survey From: "Jerry Vineyard" The information in this report on surveying in UL1 may just be the best news that has yet come out of the "Back Entrance to Carroll" story. Why? Because it reports the finding of several cavefish--2-3 in every pool checked--which reconfirms that Carroll Cave may indeed be the most important cavefish site in Missouri. On my desk right now is a document titled "Ozark Plateau National Wildlife Refuge, Proposed Refuge Expansion, Environmental Assessment, Land Protection Plan, and Conceptual Management Plan," out for review and comment until Jan. 10, 2003. The Ozark Plateau NWR was initially set up to save endangered bats and the Ozark Cavefish, and the proposed expansion is for unprotected sites in Oklahoma. The Refuge concept has sometimes been referred to as a "string of pearls," each "pearl" being a cave or spring that is home for a population of cavefish and/or bats. So we're not talking about a huge acquisition program encompassing...

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12/07/02 – Miller (Round Room)

Survey Report - December 7. 2002 Trip Report for 12/7/2002 By Ben Miller We got into the cave around 11:30 am and Chris, Marsha, Jessie, Brian, Tom, and I headed for the Round Room. We paused briefly at Convention Hall to admire the formations and confirm with Bob our meeting time at the entrance for later that night. Made our way upstream with no major incidences except for a rotten ledge that collapsed after Chris jumped off. We arrived at the Round Room and I gave Tom a quick overview of what he had in store and basically where the room began. Then Chris, Marsha, and I headed on through the room and onto UL2. We paused at the entrance to the passage in order to get all the gear sorted out, assign jobs, and to put on some extra clothing. We headed into the passage, made it to our starting point for survey, and began getting set up. Marsha who was lead tape, grabbed the end of the tape and started off down the passageway. After some problems getting started we finally started...

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12/07/02 – Lerch/Brown (Convention Hall)

Survey Report - December 7. 2002 12/7/02 UL1 Survey Bob Lerch - book, sketch, instruments Roger Brown - instruments, lead tape Time in Cave: 13.25 hours Roger and I got in the cave at 11:30a. We coordinated an out time of 1:00a with the other teams, and then headed directly to the UL1 (Convention Hall) survey. Last time we wore 6 mm wetsuits which discouraged exploration of the high leads. So, this trip we only wore cave suits and brought in additional clothes to put on as needed. This strategy worked well, and we were both generally warm throughout the trip. Upon arrival, we began exploring the upper leads near the beginning of the UL1 side passage; we needed to figure out where we could safely climb up and how we would tie it in with the lower survey. Eventually, we both found different, but sketchy climbs to the upper level, which is about 20-30' above the stream. The passage is about 4.5-5' tall and 10-20' wide, with a downward sloping floor. Roger headed back towards main...

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12/07/02 – Panian (Round Room)

Survey Report - December 7. 2002 Initial report by Tom Panian- First off Ron, I want to apologize for turning in a muddy tape. I do so much sketching I don't even think about it anymore and Jesse didn't know any better. Mea culpa, mea culpa. Next time I will be a little more aware. The clino light stopped working and was unreadable with the duct tape. So we had to unwrap it. We mapped a ttl of 715' (w/ a 260' loop closure. Should be interesting to see how tight it is. I think it will be good) and were underground for a ttl of 14+ hrs. I figure the Round Room is about 3/4 done. We flagged all stations as I was unsure of what to expect down the road. In reality only four need flagging (for tie ins). When it is done all but those can be pulled. Wasn't sure what survey designations I should use, so I used RR and RRP (a bad choice on my part, the 2nd one could have been RR12A, 12B, 12C, but I did not realize it was such a short spur). A couple things of note: 2 carbide dumps were found...

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Carroll Survey Trip Report – 11/23/02

Survey Trip Report Submitted by: Bob Lerch Trip Date: 11/23/02 Cavers: Dan Austin, Roger Brown, Bill Gee, Bob Lerch (trip leader), Andy Lerch, and Ben Miller Our primary goal for the trip was to continue the T survey. If it ended, our secondary goal was to start surveying side passages off upper Thunder River. Well, T survey ended, and we had a nice, but short trip, finishing off the last 80' or so that remained. We loved the Angel Pool, and Dan took some pictures that hopefully came out well. We re-grouped back at the new entrance, where there was a lot of activity. People were working hard shoveling the blast debris out from under the new hole. All I could think as I put on my wet suit was that I'm glad to be surveying today. The team of Roger Brown, Bill Gee, and Bob Lerch took the first passage left (now designated UL1) that heads to Convention Hall - a cave within a cave! We mapped about 250' of winding stream canyon passage in UL1, with huge mud banks on either side, and...

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Carroll Survey brief report – 10/24/02

Carroll Survey 10/24/02 brief report by Tom Lounsbury The trip leaders will publish detailed reports on the two-team survey trip and the Tom Lounsbury intro trip later. A brief summary of the survey progress by Tom follows. The survey team is preparing its detailed trip report. It should be exciting with a mix of emotions. The t-survey puffed out after an additional 80' (wish I would have known that). The side passage work has begun. Survey UL1 (Convention Hall passage) is the first left-hand side passage from the CCC entrance. Over 300' of good data was collected and several high leads were noted with "booming passage above." It will take two maybe three long trips to get the baseline up to station UL1. Ron, you will be standing in water so dress appropriately and choose your help wisely. We have as of now all the primary new inexperienced surveyors qualified for integration into our current experienced teams. Avoid placing two newcomers on one team at all cost Dec 7th. I do not...

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Carroll Survey II 10/05/02

Jeanna Tennyson, myself, Jeremy King and Paul Woods were the second of two survey teams that entered the cave. Having the rope rigged straight down the middle of the dug shaft, I learned that should not sling anything over your shoulder, but should have it hanging beneath you while on rope. We were all soon on bottom, sopping wet from the ribbling spray that cascades down the walls of the shaft. We only went a couple of hundred feet from the entrance before beginning our survey of the upstream Thunder River Passage. This began off the T-Junction as a 30 ft. tall wildly meandering canyon, 12-20 ft. wide on the bottom and somewhat wider up high. The floor was commonly bare limestone under 2-3 ft. of water. Mud is on every surface above the water line, laid there by the occasional mega flood that must back up from far down the main river passage. Formations occured throughout the passage, but were usually just vague shadows way up high, one fine example of a Showerhead formation occured...

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Carroll Survey 10/05/02

Carroll Cave Conservancy Trip Report Form Carroll Cave, Camdenton Co, Missouri Date:_10/5/02____ Time Entered:__11:00am___ Time Exited:_3:30pm_____ Area(s) of Cave:__Upstream_____________Survey Stations Referenced:__u13___________ Trip Leader: __Jeramy King___________________________CCC Approved:_Yes_________ Team Members: Purpose of Trip ___X Survey _____ Science/Research _____ Restoration Brief Description: The primary purpose of this survey trip was to traverse upstream through the water passage. We located u13 and began our traverse there running the meanders for correct placment and location of water channel. We started the utm series at u13. We traversed 883' and ended the survey for that day in going passage at station utm20. JK

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