Carroll Cave Trip Report 1/3/2004 Trip Leader: Ben Miller Other Surveyors: Roger Brown, Mike Freeman Area surveyed UL2/Convention Hall side passage We entered the cave and everyone was down in the cave by about 12:30 pm.  The trip up to the side passage was pretty normal and we reached "Conference Hall" at 1:30 pm.  After setting up our gear for a later break Bob took me further upstream to figure out where we should start surveying and so he could tie-in to that station later on. Mike, Roger, and I started surveying at a spot where the main stream flows over a black chert floor.  Our objective was to stay mainly in the stream defining meanders and the lower-level, while Bob and his team were to stay in the upper-level.  This meant that unfortunately we were going to be wet most of the day.  However this did give us a chance to see quite a few of the cave fish in the stream, more than 15 by the end of the day.  After some fairly unpleasant survey we hit a junction where the cave...

Carroll Cave Survey Trip Report Date: 1/3/2004 Area Mapped: UL2 Team 1: Jessie, Amber Team Leader: Spike My crew consisted Jessie, Amber, and myself. We entered the cave around 11:30 with the other cavers and proceeded to Conference Hall. We began mapping a dry side passage. After 300 feet of survey we intercepted the main UL2 stream. Multiple leads were encounterd. There was light traffic to this area and no formations to speak of.

Carroll Cave Survey Trip Report Date: 12/6/2003 Area Mapped: UL2 Team 1: Bill Gee, Dan Austin, and Bob Lerch Team 2: Dan Lamping, Joe Sikorski, and Rita Worden Team Leader: Bob Lerch We had a smaller turn out this month as several "regulars" were off on other survey trips. Since we had only two teams, we decided to head back to UL2 to finish up some loose ends and to survey into Convention Hall. Team 1 tied into UL2-55 and we were into Convention Hall in only 5 shots. Once in Convention Hall, I sketched the floor plan while Dan Austin did the profile and 2 cross sections to thoroughly survey this large dome room. After processing the data, the balcony that overlooks Convention Hall is currently the highest point in UL2, about 60' above Upper Thunder River. The entire length of Convention Hall is about 120' with a maximum height of 50'. We spent much of the day mapping in Convention Hall while Team 2 was near by finishing the Brown Sugar passage, which quickly shut down on them (see...

Carroll Cave Survey Trip Report Supplemental Trip Report ******************************************************************************* Permit: Your Permit Number Leader: Joe Sikorski Phone: (314)-481-5116 email: jsikorski@sbcglobal.net date: 12/6/03 manager: Bob Lerch Assessment: Convention Hall participant1: Dan Lamping participant2: Joe Sikorski participant3: Rita Worden TimeIn: noonish Saturday TimeOut: 3 to 3:30am Sunday Damage: No Date: Wednesday December 10, 2003 Time: 12:59 AM purpose: To complete the surveys of a loose end and loop closure in the UL2 side passage. To also help the continuing survey out of Convention Hall to the newly named Conference Hall. details: Our first survey started at where Spike and I had left off on the Nov. trip. Spike and I gave this passage the name Brown Sugar Crawl on that previous trip. The floor material was soft and made it a more comfortable crawl. We continued past the restriction Spike had mentioned before. There was only 2-3 more shots...

Supplemental Trip Report Cave Inventory Report ******************************************************************************* Permit: Unknown Leader: Bob Lerch date: 6 Dec 2003 manager: Bob Lerch Assessment: Convention Hall participant1: Bob Lerch participant2: Dan Austin participant3: Bill Gee TimeIn: 11:00am Sat TimeOut: 2:30am Sun Damage: No Date: Thursday December 11, 2003 Time: 06:43 PM purpose: Mapping, geology and biology survey around Convention Hall. details: Survey team was Bill Gee, Bob Lerch and Dan Austin. Lerch did book, Gee did lead tape and Austin did instruments. Gee did bio and geo survey and Austin did some profile and cross section sketches. Uncertain survey mark, probably near UL2-16: 6 cave fish observed in the stream. Two of them were quite large, near two inches. The fish were fairly active, probably because we disturbed them while crossing the stream. We did not look for isopods. UL2-55: Flying bat. Tentative ID by Dan Austin as a Grey bat. Breakdown...

******************************************************************************* Permit: See permit for survey crew. Leader: Bob Lerch, (survey work) Randy Bruegger (radio work) date: Dec. 6 2003 manager: Assessment: Carroll Passage participant1: name 1Jeff Page participant2: name 2 Peddgie H. participant3: name 3 Randy Bruegger TimeIn: 1:45 PM TimeOut: 4:30 PM Damage: No purpose: Purpose of Trip Cave radio training and testing. details: Type your trip report here Sat. Dec. 6 2003 on surface near entrance shaft Jeff, Peddgie and I set up the cave radio to do some hands on training. At about 1:45 PM Jeff and I dropped the pit to take half of the radio to a location in the cave near the entrance shaft. After setting up the radio with Jeff I went top side to work that half of the radio. Both the voice and the locate systems on this radio worked very well. After doing three locates with one a blind test and all with in a one foot dia. Jeff came up about 4:30 and we all went to town for...

Survey Trip Report Date: 11/08/2003 Purpose of Trip:  To survey in UL2 in the vicinity of Convention Hall List the actual trip participants: 1) Jeffrey Crews 2) Joe Sikorski 3) Dan Isbell Time of entry: 11:30 Time of exit: 4:30 Trip Report: After descending the shaft we waited for the other parties to head on out to UL3 and for Bob Lerch's party to descend before traveling to UL2.  Bob was to show us where we would be surveying and also where we would be tie in.  We first survey approximately 50 feet from the pearl room to tie into Ben Miller's survey.  Joe sketched and Dan set stations and performed back sights, while I shot fore sights and performed cave inventory.  After this short survey we traveled upstream to leap frog ahead of Bob's party.  Instrument reading was easy while the sketchers had headaches dealing with the complex entrenched, migrating, and meandering vadose canyons several feet under the meandering phreatic ceiling channels and remnant tubes.  After completing...

Survey Trip Report Date: 11/08/2003 Leader: Matt Goska manager: Ron Lather Assessment: Upstream Thunder participant1: Dan Lamping participant2: Roger Brown TimeIn: 12 p TimeOut: 1:30 A Damage: Yes purpose: Survey in UL3 details: Ben Miller gave us a lead somewhere in UL3, so we went and surveyed it. We went in with 1 lead, and came out with 3. The small passage was pretty much the same all the way through, with dry sandy/dusty floors and lots of undercuts and bridges. We got somwhere around 270' of survey done. 20 cavefish were counted on the way up to UL3 in Thunder River. RestoNeeded: Carbide dump (caplamp sized) about 100' upstream of lunch area near UL4. Very fresh, as there were chunks in the dump that still could have been put into a lamp and burned.

Carroll Cave Survey Trip Report Date: 11/8/2003 Area Mapped: UL2 Cavers: Bill Gee, Rita Worden, and Bob Lerch Team Leader: Bob Lerch We had a good turn out for the first survey trip since August - 12 people showed up, giving us four teams for the trip. We also were initiating the collection of inventory data for the cave, using survey stations as the location reference. Two teams headed to UL3 to continue the mapping the maze, and two teams headed to UL2 to tackle the mind-boggling passage just before Convention Hall. My team tied into the stream level survey at UL2-40 and headed upstream. From this same station, the upper level of the passage would also have to be shot to create a loop with the stream level survey - a tactic required throughout this portion of UL2. The meanders are so wide and contain so many ledges and shelves that you can rarely see the passage in its entirety. For this reason, I dubbed the area Shelf Life, since these ledges torment the would-be sketcher of this...

Trip Report for 11/8/2003 Trip Leader: Ben Miller Other surveyors: Kim Chiles,  Andy Lerch Area Mapped: UL3 Maze We entered the cave on Saturday about 1:00 PM and once everyone from my team was on the bottom we started heading upstream.  The trip upstream was fairly uneventful though it was noticed by several others that the cave stream seemed to be noticeably colder.  Unfortunately since the other teams were ahead of us we could not accomplish much fish counting.  We found the other groups at the entrance to UL2 made a bit of a game plan with regards to exit times and continued heading upstream.  Once we reached the "UL4 entrance" to the UL3 maze we stopped and set up a base area for a later hot meal. This also gave those of us changing clothes a chance to do so. Once everyone was ready we took the first team into the maze where I made sure they had a good tie-in station and then showed them the lead was as well.  Then Andy, Kim, and I took the long way around, through the upper...