Carroll Cave Reports Blog

04/03/04 – Miller (Carroll passage)

Carroll Cave Trip Report for 4/3/04 Trip Leader: Ben Miller Other Surveyors: Roger Brown,  Rita Worden Area Surveyed: Carroll River Passage We entered the cave just after 11:30 and once each of the members of our team were down we were able to get started right away.  Once we found a proper tie-in spot for the survey we were heading east going across the breakdown bridge and into Carroll River.  The survey was extremely pleasant for us this day as we had no approach time to our leads (as the survey started from the “hole”) we were in walking passage and were dry.  The passage is of nice dimensions averaging about 40 feet wide and 8-10 feet tall.  Unfortunately from all of the historic use of this area the cave is extremely impacted and many stalagmites have been muddied beyond recognition of their once brilliant white color. The main survey was ran down the largest portion of the passage, so eventually some mop up of some abandoned stream meanders may be necessary.  It was very...

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02/28/04 -Goska (Upper Thunder cleanup)

Carroll Cave Survey Trip Report Trip Leader: Matt Goska Project: Survey/Lerch Participants:  Dan Lamping, Andy Lerch Date: Feb 28 2004 We went back up to the Toilet Bowl Room, and finished off the main passage survey, which ended in breakdown in several places. We then headed west, and did another decent sized room, which has many leads. We killed one of these, which was a muddy stream meander style passage that was less than 100' long. Then we headed down Quizno's Canyon, which is named because it is crazy to sketch, and Dan and I were singing the possessed gerbil's song from the commercial all day. The canyon continues, and does even more crazy stuff.

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02/28/04 – Lerch (UL3/main passage)

Carroll Cave Survey Trip Report Date: 2/28/2004 Area Mapped: Upper Thunder near the Round Room Team: Bob Lerch, book and sketch; Andy Free, lead tape and backsight; Bill Gee, tape and foresight; Amber Spohn, cross-sections and inventory. Team Leader: Bob Lerch Time In: 12:30p            Time Out: 1:30a            Duration: 13.0 hours Our goal was to push the Upper Thunder main passage survey and tie-in to the Round Room and UL3 surveys.  We picked up from our last trip at U95 and tied-into the Round Room in just three shots. We had now tied-in hanging survey from over a year ago, and we could finally add the Round Room footage to the map! After about an hour of slow sketching near the Round Room, we began surveying the stream level detail along the right wall (looking in).  The bulk of the stream level is walking passage, with just one low area of thigh deep water over a 2’ ceiling. Beyond this annoyingly wet, low area is a very nice dome room (32’ tall).  Just beyond the dome room,...

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02/28/04 -Sikorski (UL2)

Carroll Cave Survey Trip Report Date: Feb. 28, 2004 Area Mapped: UL2 - outer reaches Team: Joe Sikorski, Tony Schmitt, Rita Worden Team Leader: Joe Sikorski Time In: 12:30am       Time Out: 2:30a       Duration: 14 hours ******************************************************************************* purpose: Continued survey of UL2 lead on the outer reaches. This lead is beyond the Conference Hall and where Ben Miller and Bob Lerch left off during their January trip. details: Tony Schmitt, Rita Worden, and I continued the walking size lead that Ben Millers survey ended at during the January trip (See Ben's January report). On our second shot we noticed a cave fish in a 1.5ft deep pool. Throughout our survey it was hard to notice any major signs of past visitation. All I saw was an occassional boot tread scrape in the mud. This passage had a 1' to 2' wide by .5' to 1.5' deep stream that meandered back and forth in a squeezed "S" type shape. As usual with this cave, the meandering...

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02/07/04 – Lerch (Main passage before Round Room)

Carroll Cave Survey Trip Report Date: 2/7/2004 Area Mapped: Upper Thunder Team: Bob Lerch, Andy Lerch, and Rita Worden Team Leader: Bob Lerch Time In: 11:30a       Time Out: 2:00a       Duration: 14.5 hours After discussion with many of the surveyors over the last three months, the majority felt it was time to discontinue use of the transit, at least for the time being. The were several reasons: 1) too few people trained in the use of the transit were participating; 2) issues related to systematic errors for in-cave use have been found in other projects; and 3) the passage will eventually render the use of the transit impractical. So, this was our first trip in main passage using hand-held instruments. After some initial technical difficulties were resolved (i.e., I forgot my pencil and straight-edge), we began at the U-89 station (marked as S-8 in-cave). We quickly got in a good groove and knocked out a 240’ loop between stream and upper levels. The passage is so wide through here,...

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02/07/04 – Goska (UL2 survey)

Trip Report for Feb 7, 2004 Time in 11AM Time out 2 AM Survey/Bob Lerch Trip Leader-Matt Goska Participants: Mike Freeman Dan Lamping Matt Platter Joe Sikorski We went in to UL2 to survey, with a big fat list of leads. Well, none of them got knocked off, and more leads were located. Several of these are for small crews only (meaning that they are now Sikorski and Miller's problem, since they are the only ones that might fit). One of these has good potential of going, given its relative elevation and heading, while the another one is probably part of the sewer system under the Toilet Bowl Room.  Speaking of, the TBR is a new discovery. This is aptly named, as the inital response upon entering is "HOLY [COW]," and the cross section of the room below and the climb up looks exactly like a 'porcelain toilet' from the side. The sketch for the main portion of the room was completed, but still needs a cross section. There is enough of the continuing passage so the next crew won't have to...

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01/03/04 – Lerch (UL2)

Carroll Cave Survey Trip Report Date: 1/3/2004 Area Mapped: UL2 Team: Bob Lerch, Rita Worden, Dan Isbell Team Leader: Bob Lerch Time In: 11:30a       Time Out: 2:30a       Duration: 15 hours We were anxious to build on our momentum from last month by hitting UL2 with a three-team approach (see reports from Spike and Ben Miller).  After, getting everyone down the hole safely, we headed quickly to the Conference Room (i.e. beyond Convention Hall) and re-grouped. Spike’s team would take the small canyon passage to the west/southwest.  I was mapping from the Conference Hall, which leads to a massive series of downward-sloping ledges to the stream level again.  Ben’s team would head further up stream and map stream level, and my team would tie-in to Ben. After that, my team would map the upper level above Ben’s team, and tie-in a good-sized loop (~600’). Got all that? Incredibly, things worked pretty much according to plan and we netted a total of about 1250’ for the trip – our biggest...

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01/03/04 -Miller (UL2)

Carroll Cave Trip Report 1/3/2004 Trip Leader: Ben Miller Other Surveyors: Roger Brown, Mike Freeman Area surveyed UL2/Convention Hall side passage We entered the cave and everyone was down in the cave by about 12:30 pm.  The trip up to the side passage was pretty normal and we reached "Conference Hall" at 1:30 pm.  After setting up our gear for a later break Bob took me further upstream to figure out where we should start surveying and so he could tie-in to that station later on. Mike, Roger, and I started surveying at a spot where the main stream flows over a black chert floor.  Our objective was to stay mainly in the stream defining meanders and the lower-level, while Bob and his team were to stay in the upper-level.  This meant that unfortunately we were going to be wet most of the day.  However this did give us a chance to see quite a few of the cave fish in the stream, more than 15 by the end of the day.  After some fairly unpleasant survey we hit a junction where the cave...

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01/03/04 – Crews (UL2)

Carroll Cave Survey Trip Report Date: 1/3/2004 Area Mapped: UL2 Team 1: Jessie, Amber Team Leader: Spike My crew consisted Jessie, Amber, and myself. We entered the cave around 11:30 with the other cavers and proceeded to Conference Hall. We began mapping a dry side passage. After 300 feet of survey we intercepted the main UL2 stream. Multiple leads were encounterd. There was light traffic to this area and no formations to speak of.

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12/6/03 – Lerch (UL2)

Carroll Cave Survey Trip Report Date: 12/6/2003 Area Mapped: UL2 Team 1: Bill Gee, Dan Austin, and Bob Lerch Team 2: Dan Lamping, Joe Sikorski, and Rita Worden Team Leader: Bob Lerch We had a smaller turn out this month as several "regulars" were off on other survey trips. Since we had only two teams, we decided to head back to UL2 to finish up some loose ends and to survey into Convention Hall. Team 1 tied into UL2-55 and we were into Convention Hall in only 5 shots. Once in Convention Hall, I sketched the floor plan while Dan Austin did the profile and 2 cross sections to thoroughly survey this large dome room. After processing the data, the balcony that overlooks Convention Hall is currently the highest point in UL2, about 60' above Upper Thunder River. The entire length of Convention Hall is about 120' with a maximum height of 50'. We spent much of the day mapping in Convention Hall while Team 2 was near by finishing the Brown Sugar passage, which quickly shut down on them (see...

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