Carroll Cave Reports Blog

19 March 2022 Bat Roost detector

Participants: Bill GeeSeth ColstonMartin CarmichaelKohl MitchellShannon ZalozEmma Buckingham Trip report by Bill Gee. The main goal of this trip was to relocate the bat roost detector from the Mountain Room to the Lunch Room guano piles. We also planned to replace the batteries and the memory card in the roost detector, and to upgrade its firmware. The final goal was to collect three of the stream level data loggers so they can be sent in for battery replacement. I drove to the site Friday afternoon, arriving about 4:30pm. I had some sprinkles of rain when leaving Kansas City. but none after passing Warsaw. The ground at the silo was a bit wet. There had obviously been some rain recently. The frog pond was at normal level. The spring peepers were in full song. I opened the cave and hung the rope. The lights in the silo were on when I arrived, and also the rope light in the shaft. Overnight it rained for several hours. It did not rain hard, but it was constant. My estimate is about...

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14 March 2022 Surface Work Day

On 3/14/22 Jay and Nick Kennedy rode down to the silo with Rick Hines to re-stake the location for the Pic Walenta Memorial Shelter House. Previously Jim Cooley and Rick had staked out an area but we decided to try to find a flatter location and one that would not interfere with hauling packs from the shaft with a pulley system and a vehicle. The new location is just south of the fire ring and near the power pole. Using a transit, we staked multiple possible locations trying to find a relatively flat spot that would not be in the road. We selected one that looked the best and staked the location for eight posts that will support the roof. The 24 by 20-foot area is angled relative to north to provide the flattest area to work with. The cedar trees Rita Worden planted will someday provide a nice windbreak. I had previously arranged to meet Randal Fredrick and we met him on the road as we drove in. Randal will grade the spot and haul in and spread river gravel for a base for the...

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21-23 January Survey Tomorrow-Morrow Land

By Chad McCain DL7 to Tomorrow-Morrow Land Friday afternoon I returned to Carroll Cave for my long-anticipated 2nd trip into the cave. Being a SEMO caver, I have no shortage of long caves to survey including the 1st, 2nd, 7th and the 17th longest caves in the state. I was invited on a weekend underground camp trip to push leads in the remote part of the cave, nay the most remote part of Missouri! I have long since heard the stories about how remote the area is and how arduous the trudge out to that section of the cave is. I like long trips and I like remote trips, so this one fit my modus operandi. I showed up Friday afternoon, well before anyone else and got started getting my gear together as other members began trickling in. Michael Bradford showed up immediately followed by Seth Colston. Shortly after Ben Miller, Dan Lamping, Joe Sikorski, and Derik Holtman all arrived and we began getting dressed, donning wetsuits and vertical gear as well as staging our camp packs for entry. As...

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21-23 January 2022 Survey in Barterland area of DL7

Return to Bartertown by Dan Lamping Recently, 8 cavers descended into Carroll Cave to continue mapping in the Bartertown area of DL7 in Lower Thunder River. The area had not seen much attention since 2011. We've long had the goal of getting some new people familiar with that remote arm of the cave for a while as well as the desire to finish some remaining leads in that section of the cave. To help make sense of the area and place names, here's some context along with some history of our efforts at pushing the frontier of DL7. Background In 2008, at the end of a long day mapping, Carroll Cave surveyors discovered a virgin side passage heading west in the far reaches of DL7. The passage was named Moonwalk. It begins as a crouching sized tube that pretty quickly turns into walking passage. It was immediately realized that this side passage, which had an active stream flowing through it, was virgin and was likely the most significant virgin find we had made since initiating the CCC...

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2021 Stream Flow Project Report

The stream flow data and graphs for 2021 are attached to this post as a ZIP file. Download and open this file to see the data. All of the graphs are in .PNG format. Raw data is also included, both as comma-separated values (CSV) files and as .hobo files. There were no big flood events during 2021. Thunder River reached just under 4 feet in January, and never rose above 2.5 feet for the remainder of the year. The battery in the data logger in UL2 failed around the first of September. I graphed only the first eight months of data from that logger. We have sent the logger in to the manufacturer for battery replacement. The other loggers in the cave are approaching the end of their battery life. I will pull them on the July service trip and send them all in for battery replacement. This year we have rainfall data from two sources. We have a rain gauge and logger mounted on the silo. This year I signed up for reports from Climate.com. They use radar estimates to provide rainfall data at...

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22 January 2022 Data Logger Service

Participants: Bill Gee (leader), Mike Kovacs, Candace Kovacs, Scott Wenzel, Kayla Heady Trip report by Bill Gee Time in - 9:15am. Time out - 2:45pm. There is a link to YouTube video at the bottom of this post. The video was recorded by Mike and Candace Kovacs using several GoPro cameras. Editing was done by Mike Kovacs. There is also a picture gallery. This trip was originally planned for January 8, but due to weather and lack of participants was delayed twice. The goal was to download date from all of the stream flow data loggers in the cave. We also changed the battery in the rain gauge logger mounted to the silo. Scott, Mike and Candace had never been in Carroll Cave, so this was an introduction trip for them. Scott Wenzel and I drove to the silo early Saturday morning. We arrived about 8:00am. The gate was chained shut but not locked when we got there. We left it that way. The temperature was about 25 degrees, so the first thing we did was start Scott's Mr. Buddy heater in the...

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15 January 2022 Carroll Passage Photo

Trip date: 2022-01-15Project manager: Kristen VogelTrip purpose: PhotographyAreas of Cave visited: Carroll Passage, TurnpikeTrip participants: Kristen Vogel - Leader. Kathy Christensen, Chase Cunningham, Joseph Garten, John Nigro, John Roth, Rita Worden, Shannon Zaloz Entry Time: 10:30am, Exit Time: 5:30pm Trip report by Kristen Godfrey: Two people braved the cold weather and camped at the silo Friday night. Four of us stayed at an Airbnb Friday night and arrived at the silo at 8:40am. Two others drove to the silo on Saturday morning. One of those was late due to getting lost, so he was not in the picture taken at the silo. That picture only has seven people in it, when we actually had eight. We started down that shaft shortly before 10:00am, with the last caver getting in at 10:30. We quickly set off down Carroll passage. This was the first time in Carroll for 2 people, and the first time past the data logger for several, and I was not sure how long it would take to get to the lunch...

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28 February 2021 Convention Hall Photo

Shannon Zaloz , Victor Munsen , Kohl Mitchell and Martin Carmichael We arrived at the silo around 9am. The field was incredibly soggy so we all kept our vehicles parked on the gravel. I opened the silo and rigged our rope for rappelling in. We went over quite a bit of basic information, the entry and exit logistics, how to use the cable ascenders and the emergency equipment. All four of us were in the Silo by 10:30. We first went to the water barrier. From there we walked back to the ladder and then headed up Thunder River to Convention Hall. Due to the snow melt and recent precipitation, the water level was up perhaps 4-6”. This was my third trip to Convention Hall and the amount of water pouring from the ceiling was much greater than usual. Perhaps before it had been a very light shower, but this time it was a steady pour that dissipated into a very heavy shower. We spent a considerable amount of time setting up lighting for photos of formations, passages and fauna. Victor brought...

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14 November 2021 Biology Trip

Participants - Bill GeeJohn RothPamela Hart Time in = 9:45am, time out = 1:00pm In mid-October we received a trip permit request from Dr. Pamela Hart. No one had any idea who she was, but the trip permit mentioned Matt Niemiller who we have worked with in the past. After further discussion with Dr. Hart we figured out this was a legitimate request. Jeff Page left it to me as leader of the Biology Project to make appropriate arrangements. Dr. Hart describes her research like this: "My name is Pam Hart and I am a postdoctoral researcher at the University of Oklahoma in the Sam Noble Museum of Natural History. I am a colleague of Dr. Matt Niemiller and Dr. Mike Slay (at the Ozark section of the Nature Conservancy). My work is NSF funded and focuses on the North American cavefishes of the Amblyopsidae and their non-visual sensory perception. My project includes laboratory experiments examining how sensitive the cavefishes are to water movement and disturbance as well as the genetic basis...

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3 November 2021 Surface Work Day

On 11/3/2021 Bill Gee and I drove to the Carroll Cave silo for a planned workday with Cliff Gill to finish moving lumber from the schoolhouse to the silo.  Before starting on the schoolhouse clean out project, we searched through the grass around the silo for the tree seedlings Bill and Rita Worden had planted last year. We found 22 cedars, 2 bald cypress, and 2 oaks. We placed six or so plastic shingles around the base of each tree to make it easier to locate and care for in the future. We checked the oil level in the red lawn mower. It had been turned upside down by the cattle, and we thought it might have leaked out all of the engine oil. As it turns out, it still had almost a full crankcase. During a prior conversation with Ben Royal, the current owner of the schoolhouse, he mentioned that several cedar beams he had stored in the schoolhouse were missing. Bill and I found the missing cedar beams stacked with our lumber by the silo. We loaded them in the truck and returned...

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