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2023 December 10 – Upper Thunder River

2023 December 10 – Upper Thunder River

Trip purpose: Bio and cave/passage knowledge … photo Trip participants: Jamie EulessCharlie ReyTerry ShermanMark Kershey Entry Time: 10am Exit Time: 4pm Biology: 1 ringneck snake2 grotto salamanders23 cavefish (always one at a time) The trip report: 25 degrees when I left and 27 when I arrived just over an hour later, 8:10am. Part of our group had suffered different ailments and all contacted me the previous day, leaving us with 4. Carried in gear and a small propane heater. Opened hatch and before I even got on my seat harness that I had laid out the silo started to drip, closed hatch. The rest of the day, in and out, we kept the hatch closed whenever possible and had a relatively minor amount of dripping. I (Terry) was the first in and last out. Told the group about how high the debris pile was from creating the shaft. The first time I entered the cave from the left side of the passage, before crossing over to where the ladder is now, you used to see the angel. With your dim...

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2023 November 17-19 Work Weekend

Trip report, Pic Walenta Memorial Shelter, Work Weekend, Nov 17-19, 2023 I was truly impressed with the hard-working, skilled crew I had last weekend at Carroll. They were not only productive but fun to be with. From November 17th through the 19th we worked at the Carroll Cave campground on the Pic Walenta Memorial Shelter. The crew consisted of Rick Hines, Jim Cooley, Bill Gee, Bill Copeland, Mike Kovacs, Candace Kovacs, Tristin Whetstine, John McGuire, Peter Schnegelberger, Jack Rufener, and Kevin Feltz. Everyone took an assignment and worked in small groups, accomplishing all of the critical tasks I hoped to accomplish and more! A 20-foot shipping container was delivered Friday and we got it set and wired for the storage of our new electric lawn mower. In addition to wiring the shipping container, we ran power to a second post-mounted RV hookup. We finished the oak board and batten siding on the four 8-foot window walls. I had purchased sufficient oak to finish the four 8-foot...

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2023 October 22 – Mowing and choosing a shipping container

Cave visited: Carroll CaveArea Visited: CampgroundPermit #: 86Trip Leader name: Rick Hines Your Name: Rick HinesPhone: 9137101063Email: rickhines@aol.com Trip date: 2023-10-22 Trip purpose: Cut grass, Select storage container, Pick up oak lumber Trip participants: Rick HinesKristen VogelMarty GriffinJack Rufener Entry Time: 11:00 Am Exit Time: 6:00 PM MCKC Publish: Yes How far: 0 Injuries: no Trash: Cleaned up silo and campground Biology: none The trip report: Work trip, Carroll Cave Campground, Oct 22, 2023A day work trip to the Carroll Campground was planned with three primary goals:1. Cut the two-foot tall grass,2. select a shipping container and pick a location for it, and3. pick up oak at a sawmill near Montreal for siding the shelter house.Sunday morning, Kristen Vogel and I departed my house early, loaded with more plywood, tools, her large string trimmer, and pulling my trailer and riding mower. We met Marty Griffin and Jack Rufener at Duncan's Container Sales in Camdenton....

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2023 October 28 Carroll Cave bat census

2023 October 28 Carroll Cave bat census

Participants - Bill Gee (trip leader)Martin CarmichaelMike KovacsCandace KovacsSarah PetersonDaisy DabbsJarrett Whistance Time in = 9:10amTime out = 5:45pm Photos and videos at the bottom of this post. Every year at the end of October I run a bat census trip. The goal is to count bats and other critters in the section of cave between the Lunch Room and the Mountain Room. This year we had a few other small goals which I will bring out in the narrative. For several days before the trip it rained heavily in Kansas City. Radar reports showed no rain at all at Carrol Cave, so we went ahead with the trip. The weather turned sharply colder on Friday, going from highs near 80 to highs in the mid-40s. I drove to the campground Friday afternoon and spent the night. It was nice to have electrical power to run the camper. Saturday morning people started showing up around 8:30. We were all there by 9:00. The only new person to Carroll was Daisy. I helped her get on a loaner seat harness, and...

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2023 July 15-16 Work Weekend

2023 July 15-16 Work Weekend

Trip ReportCarroll Cave Shelter House Work Weekend7-14 thru 7-16-23Trip Permit Number: 2023-010 On July 14th through the 16th we worked on the Carroll Cave shelter house. I was fortunate to have the largest crew so far working on this project consisting of Bill Gee, Jim Cooley, Marty Griffin, Jeff Page, Kevin Feltz, Martin Carmichael, Sean Zimmerman, Caleb Mundwiller, Tristin Whetstine and Nathen and Sam Taylor. Bill Copeland came down Friday but was feeling sick and had to leave. With 12 of us we were able to make good progress. I left home Friday afternoon with a heavy load. I was pulling a trailer with 20 sheets of ¾” plywood and my riding lawn mower. The back of the truck was fully loaded with a table saw and numerous other tools. One goal for the weekend was to get the plywood installed on the ceiling. It was securely fastened to the bottom edge of the trusses forming a sturdy floor in the attic. The floor was planned so that the four-foot-wide spaces between the trusses can be...

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2023 July 8-9 Upper Thunder Survey

2023 July 8-9 Upper Thunder Survey

Carroll Cave Upper Thunder River Camp Trip Date: July 8 & 9, 2023 Location: Carroll Cave, Upper Thunder River Goals: Survey and perform map QC in Upper Thunder River Participants: Kohl Mitchell, Bryn Downes-Ward, Erica Hroblak, Caleb Mundwiller Time In: 9:30 AM July 8 Time Out: 4:00 PM July 9 Bio Count: ~20 cave fish, 4 isopods Report Written By: Kohl Mitchell Our much-anticipated trip to the Lake Room and survey at Diarrhea Falls at the very end of Lower Thunder River had a wrench thrown into it when forecasts called for up to 2 inches of rain on Friday and Saturday in Camdenton. While the chances were pretty low, we decided that a 40% chance of death was too high, so we chose to change our objectives and make a trip to Upper Thunder River instead. This would be the first time cave camping for all members of our party, so the experience of camping was more important to us than the destination anyway. Despite some issues with a low tire on my pickup in the morning, we weren’t too...

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2023 July 8 Data Logger Service

2023 July 8 Data Logger Service

Carroll Cave Trip Report 8 July 2023 Participants: Bill GeeMike KovacsCandace KovacsSarah PetersonRabecca MarlinSean Zimmerman Purpose: Data logger service Time in - 09:30 Time out - 14:45 This trip is the summer service trip for the stream flow data loggers. The goal is to download data from all data loggers in the cave. Also replace the battery in the rain gauge logger, and replace the batteries and memory card in the cave intrusion detector. I drove to the silo early Saturday morning, arriving a few minutes after 07:00. Nathan and Sam Taylor were there in their camper. No one else camped over Friday night. I downloaded data from the rain gauge logger and replaced its battery. Looking around the site, I noticed that the weeds were getting quite tall in front of the silo. Part of the area had been mowed. Grass in the unmowed area was about 20 inches high. People started showing up shortly after 08:00. I was expecting Kohl Mitchell to be early since he was planning an overnight camp...

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8 July 2023 Introduction Trip

8 July 2023 Introduction Trip

Cave visited: Carroll CaveArea Visited: Carroll PassagePermit #: 2023-008Trip Leader name: Kristen Vogel Trip date: 2023-07-08Trip purpose: Exploration, RestorationTrip participants: Kristen Vogel, Nathan Taylor, Sam Taylor, Martin Carmichael, Nathan Hensel, Dustin Schmidt, Becky NelsonEntry Time: 10 amExit Time: 3 pmHow far: UL2 Formation Area, the Water Barrier, Thunder Falls.Injuries: NoTrash: NoBiology: 4 cave fish in Upper Thunder Becky, Nathan H, and I were the last to arrive at the silo around 9:30 am. We were just in time to chat with Bill Gee for a minute before he headed down that shaft. His group was 6 people, we were 7, and Kohl Mitchell was there with a group totaling 4. As we started gearing up, Kohl’s group finished gearing up and they headed down the shaft. This was the first time in Carroll Cave for Becky, Dustin, Nathan H, and Sam. Martin went over safety with everyone and gave instructions for the entry rappel. We started down at 10 am, and I was the last one in at...

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2023-05-23 Campground Work Day

Trip report by Rick Hines Carroll Cave, Shelter House, May 23-24, 2023 Crew: Rick Hines, Bernhard Arnold, Jeff Bowman, Marty Griffin, Jim Cooley, Tristin Whetstine, Peter Schnegelberger As Bernard and I were approaching Camdenton I got a call from Jeff asking if I had lawnmower gas. I did not so Jeff said he would take care of it. As we pulled up to the gate to the campground Jeff was behind us. Arriving at the campground I found we already had a full crew plus one. In addition to Jeff, Jim, and Marty who I was expecting I found Tristan. Later in the day I got another pleasant surprise when Peter called to say he would be there that evening with about 140 bricks and would stay overnight to work on the 24th. Everyone pitched in to help me unload my truck, that was loaded with almost every tool I own, and seven panes of glass tied to a specially built rack. Our goal for the next two days was to install the ridge cap, plug old screw holes in the metal roof, install glass in the four...

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