Carroll Cave Reports Blog

1 July 2022 – CCC merges with MCKC

Today marks a big change in the history of Carroll Cave and its community. In recent months the boards of directors for the Carroll Cave Conservancy (CCC) and the Missouri Caves and Karst Conservancy (MCKC) have been negotiating a merger by which the MCKC will assume ownership of the Carroll Cave property presently owned by the CCC. The board of CCC determined this move to be in the best interest of securing ownership in perpetuity. The presidents of both organizations have signed a Memorandum of Understanding that defines the relationship going forward. Let's take a look at what will and won't be changing from here on out. The CCC will cease to exist as an independent organization. There will be no CCC annual meetings or elections of officers. The management group will be the same people who are doing it presently and will be called the Carroll Cave Management Team (CCMT). They will be resposible to report to the MCKC in all matters concerning Carroll. That change takes place today...

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13-15 January 2023 Survey in Tomorrow-Morrow Land

13-15 January 2023 Survey in Tomorrow-Morrow Land

January 13 – 15, 2023 DL7 – Back to Bartertown Tomorrow-morrow land and beyond By Chad McCain It had been a year since we last mapped (my first trip to DL7) in Bartertown past Push Camp. I had been eagerly anticipating a return to the end of survey at L51 in Tomorrow-morrow land. Tony Schmitt, Michael Bradford and I met up at the property early in the afternoon on Friday, with a light snow cover, to do some Distox calibrating and overall final prep for the camp trip. Eventually Ben Miller rolled in, as well as Cathleen Yung, Seth Colston, Joe Sikorski and last but not least, Isaac Smith. Ben Geisert, Derik Holtman and Logan Dowd also arrived to camp on the surface for their day trip. We entered in 3 separate groups and got settled into Jerry’s Cairn by 10:30 p.m. or so with the goal to get up at 7:00 a.m. to roll out to Bartertown! Joe, Michael, Isaac and I rolled out around 8:45 a.m. and we made good time reaching push camp in just over 2 hours and we were at the end of survey an...

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14 January 2023 Survey in Upper Thunder River

Trip report by Spike Crews Project manager: Bob Lerch Trip purpose: Survey Leads Areas of Cave visited: Upstream Thunder Trip participants: Derik Holtmann, Kyle Mann, Jeff Crews Entry Time: 10:00 Exit Time: 19:30 The trip report: I made it to the silo around 9 AM and met up with the folks going in. We broke into two teams. Kohl Mitchell, Ben Geisert, Logan Dowd were going down stream and we were going upstream to work on leads. We made a detour to the start of the Apparition Ave passage to show Kyle the entrance. I couldn't remember if there was still an old tarp in the passage for placing over some flowstone to manage mud in that passage, so I asked Kyle to see if it was there and bring it out. Kyle found the tarp wrapped up and pulled it out of the passage. We took it to the river to wash it off a bit and stashed it to take to the Round Room on our exit. We continued up to two small leads near the breakdown barrier(UR4 and UR5) each were surveyed with a few shots. I took the...

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17 January 2023 – Survey in DL2

17 January 2023 – Survey in DL2

Date: 1/17/2023 Location: Carroll Cave Goals: Survey the DL2 passage of Carroll Cave Participants: Kohl Mitchell, Ben Geisert, Logan Dowd Time In: 10:00 AM Time Out: 11:00 PM Bio Count: 4 cave fish; 2 cave salamanders; several bat carcasses Report Written By: Kohl Mitchell Ben Geisert, Logan Dowd, and myself were the first team to enter the cave on Saturday morning, dropping in at about 10:00. Our mission was to return to DL2, a lead off of Lower Thunder River previously surveyed by Alex Litsch, Cathleen Yung, and myself on the last survey weekend in August. We’d dug out a ~10 foot mud fill, breaking into small walking/stooping passage beyond. We stopped the survey as we reached the fill, so this was where we began this time around. Ben and Logan began setting stations and getting measurements, while I tried to wrap my head around the sketching. It didn’t take long before we got a good rhythm going, and began making our way down the passage. After we broke through the mud fill, the...

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13-15 January 2023 – DL5 quad survey

Tony Schmitt Ben Miller Seth Colston Cathleen Yung Trip report by Tony Schmitt and Ben Miller We entered the cave on Friday evening around 6:41. With our crew of three, Ben, Cathleen and Tony all at the bottom by 7. Seth was coming in later with Chad McCain crew. We made it to camp at Jerry's Cairn right around 9pm. settling in and having dinner. The rest of the in-cave camp crew showed up about 10:30. Saturday morning everyone was up early around 6, mostly due to Isaac’s stupid alarm. It worked out because we got out of camp at a reasonable time to head downstream past DL7 to check leads on the DL5 Quad. This from Ben Miller: Lead near "Big Tex" at D192 : Lead went 29 ft, surveyed with 1 shot. Lead at D195A1 : Note for map "Possible lead accessed via vertical wall for 7 ft to 4 ft high possible passage, unable to determine whether passage continues or not.  There is a second alcove, to the right of the main "lead" which appears to head over main passage." Leads at 198A : Surveyed...

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7 January 2023 – Data logger service trip

7 January 2023 – Data logger service trip

Permit number 2023-001 Participants: Bill Gee (trip leader)Nathan TaylorMike KovacsCandace KovacsChloe Kovacs Time in = 9:10am, time out = 3:15pm This is a regular trip taken in early January to download data from all of the stream flow data loggers in Carroll Cave. Along with data collected in July, a set of full-year graphs is generated showing rainfall activity and changes in the stream level. Nathan and I drove to Carroll Cave early Saturday morning. We arrived at 7:45am. On the drive we went through a few sprinkles of rain, just enough to require a few swipes of the windshield wipers. The temperature was a few degrees above freezing, so I was not worried about slick roads. We found gate at the road was properly locked with the two padlocks chained to each other. At the silo we unlocked the cave and installed the rappel rope. I then tried to download data from the rain gauge logger. It did not work even after several attempts. I gave it up with the intention of trying again after...

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19 November 2022 Public Relations

19 November 2022 Public Relations

Trip Report by Rick Hines, Public Relations trips, November 19, 2022 We had a total of eight guests on two trips on Saturday, November 19. A few potential participants canceled before Saturday and we had two no-shows. I had three experienced cavers helping me in Carroll and two helping on the surface. All the guests were very complimentary and very pleased with their experience. I believe we will see a few of them caving again and helping with the Carroll project. Claudia Elkins (one of our guests) and Jim and Julie Cooley arrived at my home in time for a 6:45 AM departure. My pickup bed was fully loaded with a massive amount of gear we were hauling down. We arrived at the silo and found Martin Carmichael, Kohl Mitchell, and Bryn Downes-Ward already there. I gave Kohl and Bryn a quick Trip Leader training course covering the operation of our safety winch, the rescue cache stored in the silo, and our other safety equipment. Julie accepted the assignment of getting signed release forms...

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9 November 2022 Pouring concrete for the pavilion

Trip report by Rick Hines. On Saturday, Nov 9, after two weather-related delays we finally got the concrete pad poured for the Pic Walenta Memorial shelter house.  Bill Gee, John McGuire, and Dennis Murphy arrived at my house for an on-time 5:30 AM departure.  Just after 8:00 AM I confirmed our 10:00 AM order for concrete.  We met Eric Eberhart on the road south of Warsaw and arrived at the silo as planned at 9:00 and found Jeff Bowman there.  We quickly got the rebar off the ground about 2” using rocks as Eric set grade stakes.  We removed some of the temporary bracing from the post to allow easier placement of the concrete.  Eric gave us assignments and instructions.   Then we waited, … and waited.  Unfortunately, the first of two trucks didn’t arrive until 12:30.    It only took 20 minutes to get six yards of concrete out of the first truck and roughly graded into position.  The second truck arrived just as the first was...

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29 October 2022 Survey in Water Passage

Corey Ellis led a team of three to do some survey in a few side passages off the entrance Water Passage. His trip report and some photos are posted on the Nashville Grotto web site. https://nashvillegrotto.org/trip-reports.php?tid=77

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29 October 2022 Annual Bat Census

29 October 2022 Annual Bat Census

Trip report - Carroll Cave bat census Date of trip - 29 October 2022 Trip participants - Bill GeeMartin CarmichaelMike KovacsCandace KovacsChloe KovacsJarrett WhistanceJustin PrazakSarah Peterson Time in - 9:30am. Time out - 7:00pm. The annual bat census trip in Carroll Cave takes place in late October every year. For the last few years we have found very few bats and quite a few sculpins. Perhaps it should be called a sculpin census. This year was no different. Most of the participants arrived during the day on Friday to help out with work on the campground pavilion. The Kovacs came in Saturday morning. There was a survey project trip planned for the same day. The three people on that team arrived Saturday morning . They geared up and were in the cave shortly after 9:00am. By that time we were all ready to go. As soon as the survey team was in the cave, we started in. That was about 9:30am. We were all in the cave shortly after 10:00am. Since there was only one rope, we coordinated...

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28 October 2022 Campground pavilion work day

28 October 2022 Campground pavilion work day

Working on the Pic Walenta Memorial Shelter House at Carroll Cave, Oct 27 and 28. Trip report by Rick Hines. I had hoped to pour concrete on Oct 28 but after 3 inches of rain earlier in the week I canceled the concrete to avoid getting a concrete truck stuck in the cow pasture. But since I had a crew lined up, I went ahead with working Oct 27-28 and switched from concrete work to framing the shelter house. I drove down Thursday morning and picked up my trailer at the silo, then drove back to Camdenton and purchased 45 twenty-foot sticks of rebar, rebar wire ties, tie twisters and some 2x8s. Jeff Bowman was the first to arrive Thursday and caught me napping in my truck. First, we started checking the alignment of the eight post we had set on a prior work day. I was surprised to find how much they had moved after the rain. Bill Gee arrived and after setting up his trailer he joined in to try to straighten the posts. We then took some measurements to determine the shortest post. We...

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